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Eero Ettala | Cycling | Simple Pleasures | Thriftiness | Knees | Fast Food

Episode #50 

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Eero is  someone that choose to carve his own path in snowboarding (pardon the pun), by branching out on his own projects such as his tv show tracking Eero or his web series cooking with gas. From our discussion with Eero, I can tell that he’s calculated, organized and a planner - the process that he describes going through for each trick at street spot was eye opening to me! It’s a very time consuming, focused methodology, I don’t want to ruin it, but I’ll just say that he does not pull up to a spot, shovel some snow and decide what to do.
Eero tells us about cycling 100 miles a day for seven days in a row, the state of his knee injuries, his favorite junk food. We also get into why Eero's backing the preferred swimming attire of the European Union.
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Topics from this episode include:


Road biking 

Getting into snowboarding in Finland 
Hard work 
Heikki Sorsa
Iikka Backstrom 
Lauri Heiskari
Helping Jaakko Ojanen get on Red Bull 
Getting sponsored by Oakley as a kid 
Getting on Nitro in 2001 
Thoughts on Burton’s past team decisions 
Why he can only bend his knees half way 
Pain management 
Listeners questions 
Fast food 
Social Media 
The switch board slide double under flip in Ender
His relationship with his photographer, Pasi Salminen
Cooking with Gas 
How to swear in Finnish 

Quotes from this episode:

“It seems like in the US the beer is a lot lighter - which is good for hangovers.”
“We did a charity cycling event, we were raising money for kid suffering for cancer. We cycled 10200 Kilometers in seven days…. it’s a hundred miles a day."
“I really started road cycling like two years ago.”
"We took a boat from Helsinki to Trollman Germany and then we circled form there to Paris”
“It’s such a good exercise for my knees (cycling).”
“I’ve never had a flat tire.”
“The better bicycle you had the more time you’re going to spend on it.”
“I never buy anything if I don’t really need it. I always put thoughts behind it… I usually don’t buy useless crap.”
"We have so much crap anyways - I don’t need or want anything unless it’s really going to make my life better.”
"If I want to go snowboarding this (Simple Pleasures) is one of the movies that gets me the most hyped.”
“…I feel like Nitro is a very loyal company.”
“Still when I think of Heikki, I think of Burton.”
“It’s pretty painful after a long flight - when I have to get up and try to walk a little bit it kind of sucks.”
“I don’t have an ACL in the left knee right now.”
“I’ve had six knee surgeries so far and three ACL’s, now four… and two meniscus.”
“I only eat painkillers when I’m shooting - it makes me feel more flexible than I am.”
“I play a lot of squash and swimming and cycling and skating.”
“I feel like if I play squash then I can eat whatever I want, pizza and burgers… I probably have the worst diet out of any pro athlete.”
“Fish, I hate the fish - the texture the taste, I hate it.”
“Social media is almost as important as snowboarding now a days.”
“The older I get the more summer I need.”
“I’m the most proud of video parts, people always think X-games, but video parts are like five months of work.”
“I always need to have a solid plan - I can’t go to a spot and decide what to do at the spot…. I have to go there before and visualize it before I go do it.”
“The riskier and bigger the tricks are - the easier they are to get because you have to send it.”
“There’s a lot of photog’s that are never ready, but Pasi always gets the photo - it’s been a pleasure working with him.”
“I feel like if you film for a movie and you’re one  of the 16 people - you’re helping the film, but you’re not really helping yourself.”
“The actual last time I bought clothing was 20 years ago - it’s going to be shocking when I quit snowboarding - I’ll have to pay for stuff!”
“If I go swimming, I go in Speedos… I don’t want (especially) American people to know that I wear Speedos.”
“The first time I put on the spandex - I was like F* I look ridiculous.”
“I think in past years, I’ve been too organized - it takes the fun out of snowboarding.”

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Sven Thorgren | Dry Slope NBD | Bondi | MIPS | Gun Control | Ice Bath

Sven is one of the younger dudes we’ve chatted with on the podcast - he’s 22, from Sweden and he’s probably one more contests than the average 22 year old competitive snowboarder has even entered. We catch up with Sven over Skype during some down time while he was recovering from an injury which he explains in the episode. We also discuss his relationship with his sponsors, his aspirations to become a pilot, the olympics, dropping a never been done on dry slope and much more. 


Sven’s Skype Picture 
New Era in the US vs. in Europe 
GoPro voice control 
Robot’s take over the world
Surfing in Bondi Beach 
The GoPro commercial 
Knee injury 
Helments & MIPS technology 
Snapchat vs. Instagram Stories 
Christmas Ice Bath 
Snowboarding at 7 years old 
Cross country ski racing Stale Snadbach 
Stockholm Snowboarding Syndrome 
Getting his first sponsor 
Snowboarding high school 
Moving away at 15 years old
The Olympics, FIS
Gun control 
Milk Cartons
Dave TV / The Unbreakables 
How to do the DrySlope Loop 
Remote control plans 
Flying goals
People riding drones 
Sven’s new website 
Getting the middle seat on a plane 
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Jon Kramer & Jason Smith | Heavy Metal Motorsports | Rally | The Art of The Flick | Co-Driving | Board Tuning | Expert Class

Episode #48

While AJ was home for a few days this summer we drove it up to Jon’s house for the day with the intent of recording a podcast. Little did we know that we’d be in for one of the most fun days of our lives. When we got to Jon’s he asked if we should record the episode before or after going out for a few laps in his rally car..... AJ and I both said "after!"
I’ve been lucky enough to be able to get to know Jon and Jason over the years via their roles in the industry and from their preexisting friendship with Tim and Mal from Pitcrew.
Jason and Jon get deep into many aspects of racing rally cars - they share stories from times that they’ve crashed, what it’s like to be a co-driver and what it takes to participate - Jon mentions that the driving is the easy part. About a third of the way through Jason has to leave and put the kids to bed and we change subjects a bit and get into snowboarding and business.
Check out Jon's Rally America bio and race history here: Rally America

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Jon wheels up!
Jon wheels up!

This episode covers the following topics:

  • The day of rally fun
  • AJ joins the PA rally scene
  • The electric car
  • How Rally driving compares with snowboarding
  • Nate and AJ’s experience riding along with Jon in the rally car
  • Co-driver’s role
  • Rally event logistics - stages.
  • Jon’s race stats
  • The Snow Drift rally
  • Wellsboro PA rally
  • The art of the flick
  • How Mal at Pitcrew influenced their passion rally
  • Rallycross
  • How Ali Goulet introduced Jon to rallycross
  • Seven Springs
  • Heavy Metal Racing
  • Wrecks and ruts - Jon’s first roll
  • Naturally aspirated verses turbo charged
  • Driving verses co-driving
  • Engine trouble
  • Pierre Wikberg / Ken Block
  • Jon’s obsession with camo
  • Engine swaps
  • Race prep
  • Brandon at All Wheels Driven in Wellsboro PA
  • Jay exits
  • Jon’s role at Hoonigan
  • Ken Block’s racing team
  • The Hoonicorn
  • Gymkhana
  • Nardwar
  • Killington
  • How to get paid for photo incentive when your sponsor is stingy
  • How to (not) tune a board
  • Flipping cars via the Baltimore abandoned vehicle auction
  • Listener questions:
    • Dave Thacker - Thacker’s Transmissions
    • Paul Horning
    • Jared Lantzy
    • Alex Dunn
    • John Leonard
  • Clutches
  • Superstition in racing and snowboarding
  • Blood Sweat and Grease Paint
  • The first 1080 into powder - Colin Lentz
  • Broken bones
  • Step-in bindings
  • "Expert class” - sharing advice on snow at just the right time.
  • AJ signs on with Hoonigan
  • Family vibes
  • Getting to the hill before noon...
  • East Coast/West Coast - Tupac and Biggie
  • Adventure-mobiles
    • Nate’s truck
    • 4wd minivans
      Jon Kramer SnoDrift Rally
      Jon at the Sno*Drift Rally

Quotes form the Episode:

"I hope you’re right - cause if not we’re going to go into a tree!” Jason Smith
“Right four over crest - five short.”
“The cool thing that I like about rally is the adventure in between - the time’s don’t always reflect what happened.”
"The snowdrift in Michigan - you’re going to go off the road.”
“You shift the weight of the car - like riding a snowboard.” Jason Smith
“It was a $400 car so I didn’t care about it - anytime it snowed, we’d attack the streets.”
“We’d get the $9.00 insurance on rental cars so that you could just drive it like a race car - I sent a car back on a flatbed, I won’t say where.”
“You’ve seen the roads around here, there’s no straight roads - it’s a rally to Seven Springs.”
“If it died, just light it on fire and leave it - when you pass that point where you no longer care, you can do some pretty cool things with it.”
“I’ve rolled three times - the first one was with Jay and we didn’t have a cage.”
“To do well in race you have to be close to wrecking.” Jason Smith
“Not bursting your bubble, but you’re a better driver than co-driver (Jon to Jay).”
“You see my car - this isn’t some high roller thing, I buy an engine for a couple hundred bucks at a junkyard.”
“I popped a tire, the front right, we had to go six miles more, but we won the stage… We just kept it pinned and kept going!”
"Carbon fiber is not my deal - I just don’t have a fancy car… I’d rather have people think that my car is turd and them beat them."
“Killington had the half pipe… We’d sleep in our cars.”
“I can part out a car in my head, just by looking at it - it’s a weird skill to have.”
“Typical Colin (Lentz) - he did an amazing run and then he was like, I’m good - got in the truck and left.”
“There was no easy way to try em - you had to use some else sweaty boots (step-ins).”
“Adventure is cool right now….Rally is that, your phone does not work, there’s snakes, there’s tic’s…”
“All my grade school teachers marked does not work well with others.”
“It was almost like, if you’re not from the east coast - we can’t hang out.”


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